compraventahandpan.org (warning)

[atonal sonographik]

hahaha the picture on the 'trabaja con nosotros' (work with us) section says it all...

[omrhythm]

This is funny. Any good marketer that has done 10 minutes of research will recognize instantly that handpans NEED NO MARKETING! Why else would 100 people be avidly trying to make them? Because they have easier liquidity than silver.

[Guitargonaut]

I got this email too, and I suspected it was related to the weird ongoings in the lower hemisphere. It's got me between a rock and a hard place, because I love my new Sagittarius Osiris... it's' truly an amazing product. But the marketing strategies that crop up around the periphery of this enterprise seem unfitting of any hand pans, especially those of the quality I received in the mail a few days ago.

I try to imagine what it must be like to live in a country that is less well-to-do than my own, and in such scary economic times. A talented, and perhaps struggling musician, develops a skill-set that has the potential make a lot of money... I'm not sure what I would do in that situation, but shamelessly capitalizing on it might be a temptation at the very least. Many of the hand pans that I'm aware of come from the "developed world" where it may be easier to sit on one's high horse and moralize unto the great unwashed masses about proper hand pan business modeling or preservation of the groovy spiritual essence of this instrument family.

Please notice that I'm using words like "might be" "may" "imagine".

I'm just using hypotheticals to remind us that it is important to keep an open-mind and try our best to project compassion in the face of these frustrations.

Reminds me of a story I read (which I will paraphrase terribly) about a man sitting on a train with three children who were running amok and just acting a fool. Another adult turns to the man and scolds, "You're children are so undisciplined! What kind of father are you? " The man shakes off the semblance of a trance and replies, "Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't even notice. We're all a little shaken up. The children have just lost their mother."

It's a little anecdote to remind us to be compassionate because we don't know the full story. I prefer what some of the folks are saying in the other Saggi thread that I started yesterday, which is that we ought to let time run its course and withhold our judgements until more accounts and experiences are reported.

[Mikey P]

Well said Guitargonaut !

Cheers !

Mike

[JeremyD]

Come on dudes don't be so harsh, all he wants is some bread.

[audi]

So in other words, these gu holes plan to charge a marketing fee for placing someone else's handpan on ebay..what ding-a-lings.

[Guitargonaut]

Come on dudes don't be so harsh, all he wants is some bread.

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Upon first reading, this strikes me as a tragic over-simplification of what I wrote. My intention was to demonstrate that there may be big-picture socio-economic or personal issues at play that none of us could fully understand. One can not be held entirely accountable for the larger social, historical, political and biological forces that frame the context under which one acts. As I tried to demonstrate, the context under which we are quick to make our own judgements is likewise not of our making or choosing. It seems to me that the only proper response to the deterministic universe in which all material reality is comprised of colliding atoms, is to exercise compassion.

[broussel2]

Compassion towards a business model ?

[Guitargonaut]

Compassion towards a business model ?

No. I meant compassion for the people behind the business model. It's near impossible to fully understand the context under which this venture came about... the history, familial and the socio-economic circumstances, even the biological (genetic, psychological, etc). What I am saying is that given a deterministic universe guided by atomic forces, it could easily have been any one of us; thus it really only makes sense to show compassion, rather than judgement, because we cannot possibly properly empathize.

[in2nation]

Compassion towards a business model ?

No. I meant compassion for the people behind the business model. It's near impossible to fully understand the context under which this venture came about... the history, familial and the socio-economic circumstances, even the biological (genetic, psychological, etc). What I am saying is that given a deterministic universe guided by atomic forces, it could easily have been any one of us; thus it really only makes sense to show compassion, rather than judgement, because we cannot possibly properly empathize.

Says the person who owns a Sagittarius handpan